[CAMWEST-discuss] Rearrangement of CAMWEST Web site

Nick Urbanik nicku at nicku.org
Tue Aug 8 19:31:37 UTC 2006

Dear Folks,

On 31/07/06 20:56 +1000, Nick Urbanik wrote:
>Dear Folks,
>As I mentioned below, I am changing the web site, trying to keep the
>original colours and design as much as I can, but using CSS boxes
>instead of mixing the content with tables and other styling.
>This is after a discussion with Ian Macindoe, who suggested a change
>to the navigation.  Please have a look at
>http://camwest.nicku.org/projects/aust-fuel-prices2.shtml for some
>idea of the menu arrangement that I am implementing, and let me know
>what you think.

I've had no negative comments, so I rolled up my sleeves and converted
a lot of the web site to this new arrangement.  Please let me know
what you think.  All suggestions gratefully received, particularly any
about colour.  Broken links are an important issue; I'll automate a
system to check for links later on.

>On 21/07/06 13:44 +1000, Nick Urbanik wrote:
>>I am in the process of working out a way of making it easier to
>>maintain the web site, and have ruthlessly stripped out all the markup
>>from the content, and have tried to just leave the structure.  I have
>>put all the styling into a new style sheet
>>I am attempting to build some nice nested menus based on the tutorial
>>at http://www.tanfa.co.uk/css/examples/menu/vs7.asp and
>>http://www.seoconsultants.com/css/menus/vertical/ and complex
>>workarounds for Internet Explorer 5.x
>>I haven't got it working yet, and it looks like it will take me a few
>>days before I have a deep enough understanding of CSS and IE's refusal
>>to work with it to make the menus work.
>>Then I will need to write a program to edit all the hundred or so web
>>pages on the web site.  This will probably cause a lot of breakage, so
>>I will set this up on a test site, to get your feedback from.
>>Please look at the web pages above and let me know if you see any
>>problems (I have tested it in Firefox on Linux, IE5, IE5.5 and IE6
>>running in wine on Linux).  Also, any aesthetic feedback would be
>>Please note that my aims for the design are:
>>1. Cleanly separate the content from formatting so the web site is
>>   much easier to maintain using simple tools, not requiring
>>   proprietary tools such as Dreamweaver or (shudder) Frontpage;
>>2. be able to work on all the major browsers later than Netscape
>>   4.x and IE 4;
>>3. be able to work with a variety of screen resolutions and so avoid
>>   pixel widths for boxes of text, and still look okay at 1920x1440 as
>>   well as at 800x600 (or even 640x480);
>>4. Still be readable after radically resizing the fonts with browsers
>>   that are capable of doing so (such as Firefox);
>>5. Keep all constant parts in single files that are included into each
>>   file, rather than repeating the same material hundreds of times.
>>   This obviously makes it much more possible to manage the site;
>>6. To keep all the original pages in the same place with the same URL
>>   so that links from search engines and other sites do not die within
>>   the constraints of the above.
>>None of this is easy for me; it is a learning experience that I am
>>tackling as my family and other commitments allow.
>>Anyone who wants to help is most welcome!

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Nick Urbanik   RHCE         http://nicku.org        nicku at nicku.org
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