[CAMWEST-discuss] Fw: Re: push on gone To the contrary, "Push On enters the 21st Century"

Nick Urbanik nicku at nicku.org
Wed Aug 30 00:59:19 UTC 2006

There will be more discussion yet!

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Subject: Re: push on gone       To the contrary, "Push On enters the 21st Century"
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I must admit I agree with Phil
Push On was great in Australian Cyclist, and I think was a terrific incentive
for the new cyclist. I would love to see a few pages in the magazine dedicated
to BUGs for contacts, stories, and, in particular the rides calendar website
emphasised, so new readers will not miss the opportunity of learning about how
to access rides. We must not forget that regular riders are the initiated,and
it is the new riders we are trying to encourage.
However, the Push On website, as it develops, is a wonderful resource for us
all.  To see what is happening now, both politically and for accessing rides.
Rides can be more appropriate for current users of a particular BUG, and the
weather conditions. I always found it difficult to plan rides so far ahead, and
then be unable to make changes if the situation changed. The website gives us
much more flexibility. Also, the latest political situation, good news stories
and a forum, give us all the opportunity to voice our opinions to the present
political situation. It also gives us current information that we can use to
inform our own local media.
I too, greatly appreciate the work Jenni is doing in developing this site. It
is now up to us to use it to our advantage and give the BUGs a united voice.
Regards Sally Knyvett
Secretary BARBUG
Ph: 46841444

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    From: Phil Johnston
    To: 'john kyriazis'
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    Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:53 PM
    Subject: RE: push on gone To the contrary, "Push On enters the 21st



    I believe www.PushOn.com.au provides a materially more efficient, timely
    information distribution medium than the former paper based delivery where
    much of the information was assembled a few months earlier.  I found too
    many rides in the paper based programme to have changed.


    I have never met Jenni Gormley, who seems to have pioneered
    www.PushOn.com.au by expending countless hours of her time.  However, I
    have enormous regard for her commitment.  It is child s play for BUGs to
    log new rides whereby members may access across a plethora of viewing
    options where the ride details can readily be amended or deleted if
    necessary.  Such amendment wasn t possible previously whereupon cyclists
    can now safely rely on ride details in the above website. 


    The foundation stone of BNSW surely has to be an extensive, diverse,
    accurate rides programme.


    I appreciate that a few people still don t have Internet access, but
    usually they know someone who does who has a printer.


    The world relies on the internet to provide all sorts of timely, accurate
    info.  Traditional newspapers and magazines are struggling for
    circulation.  I don t see why cyclists shouldn t similarly avail themselves
    of its benefits.




    Phil Johnston

    BUG:  www.Muggaccinos.com


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    Sent: Monday, 28 August 2006 7:54 PM
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    windsorcyclist at windsorcyclists.org.au/; judd at tpg.com.au;
    enquiry at toukleycycleclub.org.au; candgfloyd at hotmail.com;
    info at stgeorgebug.org.au; gjsearle at bigpond.com; laja.florence at bigpond.com;
    begabug_7 at hotmail.com; ggodde at vtown.com.au; rpabarlow at netwit.net.au;
    gregw at nor.com.au; patriciagriffen at bigpond.com.au;
    cycleways at hunterlink.net.au; nebug at optusnet.com.au; alland1 at bigpond.com;
    ScribePJ at tpg.com.au; gregmonk at bigpond.net.au; bccycles at nor.com.au;
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    dbathers at bigpond.net.au; CBushell at csu.edu.au; 1bicycle at lisp.com.au;
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    KRIXggrh at bigpond.com; pwe01326 at bigpond.net.au; bsday at optusnet.com.au;
    grant at grcontrols.net; info at bikenorth.org.au; secretary at bww.org.au;
    sally at full-screen-ahead.com.au; ashbug at telstra.com; fractalbug at yahoo.com.au
    ; ducula at tpg.com.au
    Subject: push on gone


    The push on has gone from the magazine and thus relegated those activists &
    Bugs associated with it to third rate status. Bicycle NSW  is distancing
    itself from Bugs. Its ceo seems to be more interested in fun rides and
    insurance. This year may be the last chance for BUGS to back control of
    their organisation. What  do you all think?


    If something is not done to reform Bicycle NSW  in 2006 then it will become
    even more distant from its members, when the boards 2 year term in office
    will begin.


    We need a Bicycle NSW  that will take the lead in lobbying the NSW state
    government and allow the BUGS to consentrate on local government.



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