[CAMWEST-discuss] Fw: Re: push on gone To the contrary, "Push On enters the 21st Century"

Nick Urbanik nicku at nicku.org
Wed Aug 30 01:00:29 UTC 2006


Doug puts in his twopence worth:

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From: "Doug & Nina Bathersby" <dbathers at bigpond.net.au>
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:02:26 +1000
To: "'john kyriazis'" <ioannis_zis at yahoo.com>, <scribepj at tpg.com.au>,
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Subject: Re: push on gone       To the contrary, "Push On enters the 21st Century"
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The bottom line is that many members still want to put up their feet and read a
magazine with everything up front. What is next the Woman's Weekly and the
bible only accessible on the web??
 
Doug

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Full Screen Ahead
    To: scribepj at tpg.com.au ; 'john kyriazis'
    Cc: president at bikenorth.org.au ; imacian at bigpond.net.au ;
    windsorcyclist at windsorcyclists.org.au/ ; judd at tpg.com.au ;
    enquiry at toukleycycleclub.org.au ; candgfloyd at hotmail.com ;
    info at stgeorgebug.org.au ; gjsearle at bigpond.com ; laja.florence at bigpond.com
    ; begabug_7 at hotmail.com ; ggodde at vtown.com.au ; rpabarlow at netwit.net.au ;
    gregw at nor.com.au ; patriciagriffen at bigpond.com.au ;
    cycleways at hunterlink.net.au ; nebug at optusnet.com.au ; alland1 at bigpond.com ;
    gregmonk at bigpond.net.au ; bccycles at nor.com.au ; haworth at tsn.cc ;
    david.and.barb at iinet.net.au ; agwood at hn.ozemail.com.au ;
    dbathers at bigpond.net.au ; CBushell at csu.edu.au ; 1bicycle at lisp.com.au ;
    timothy at australia.edu ; president at sydneyspokes.com ;
    john-j-OBrien at bigpond.com ; george1h at 0tusnet.com.au ;
    info at camwest.pps.com.au ; jan2max at bigpond.net.au ; jclewer at bigpond.net.au ;
    katandra at bigpond.com ; cctcc at bigpond.com ; contact at baybug.org.au ;
    bgrinberg at telstra.com ; KRIXggrh at bigpond.com ; pwe01326 at bigpond.net.au ;
    bsday at optusnet.com.au ; grant at grcontrols.net ; info at bikenorth.org.au ;
    secretary at bww.org.au ; sally at full-screen-ahead.com.au ; ashbug at telstra.com
    ; fractalbug at yahoo.com.au ; ducula at tpg.com.au
    Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 12:20 AM
    Subject: Re: push on gone To the contrary, "Push On enters the 21st
    Century"

    I must admit I agree with Phil
    Push On was great in Australian Cyclist, and I think was a terrific
    incentive for the new cyclist. I would love to see a few pages in the
    magazine dedicated to BUGs for contacts, stories, and, in particular the
    rides calendar website emphasised, so new readers will not miss the
    opportunity of learning about how to access rides. We must not forget that
    regular riders are the initiated,and it is the new riders we are trying to
    encourage.
    However, the Push On website, as it develops, is a wonderful resource for
    us all.  To see what is happening now, both politically and for
    accessing rides. Rides can be more appropriate for current users of a
    particular BUG, and the weather conditions. I always found it difficult to
    plan rides so far ahead, and then be unable to make changes if the
    situation changed. The website gives us much more flexibility. Also, the
    latest political situation, good news stories and a forum, give us all the
    opportunity to voice our opinions to the present political situation. It
    also gives us current information that we can use to inform our own local
    media.
    I too, greatly appreciate the work Jenni is doing in developing this site.
    It is now up to us to use it to our advantage and give the BUGs a united
    voice.
     
    Regards Sally Knyvett
    Secretary BARBUG
    Ph: 46841444
    www.bargo.info/cyclebargo/bug.htm

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Phil Johnston
        To: 'john kyriazis'
        Cc: president at bikenorth.org.au ; imacian at bigpond.net.au ;
        windsorcyclist at windsorcyclists.org.au/ ; judd at tpg.com.au ;
        enquiry at toukleycycleclub.org.au ; candgfloyd at hotmail.com ;
        info at stgeorgebug.org.au ; gjsearle at bigpond.com ;
        laja.florence at bigpond.com ; begabug_7 at hotmail.com ; ggodde at vtown.com.au
        ; rpabarlow at netwit.net.au ; gregw at nor.com.au ;
        patriciagriffen at bigpond.com.au ; cycleways at hunterlink.net.au ;
        nebug at optusnet.com.au ; alland1 at bigpond.com ; gregmonk at bigpond.net.au ;
        bccycles at nor.com.au ; haworth at tsn.cc ; david.and.barb at iinet.net.au ;
        agwood at hn.ozemail.com.au ; dbathers at bigpond.net.au ;
        CBushell at csu.edu.au ; 1bicycle at lisp.com.au ; timothy at australia.edu ;
        president at sydneyspokes.com ; john-j-OBrien at bigpond.com ;
        george1h at 0tusnet.com.au ; info at camwest.pps.com.au ;
        jan2max at bigpond.net.au ; jclewer at bigpond.net.au ; katandra at bigpond.com
        ; cctcc at bigpond.com ; contact at baybug.org.au ; bgrinberg at telstra.com ;
        KRIXggrh at bigpond.com ; pwe01326 at bigpond.net.au ; bsday at optusnet.com.au
        ; grant at grcontrols.net ; info at bikenorth.org.au ; secretary at bww.org.au ;
        sally at full-screen-ahead.com.au ; ashbug at telstra.com ;
        fractalbug at yahoo.com.au ; ducula at tpg.com.au
        Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:53 PM
        Subject: RE: push on gone To the contrary, "Push On enters the 21st
        Century"


        John

         

        I believe www.PushOn.com.au provides a materially more efficient,
        timely information distribution medium than the former paper based
        delivery where much of the information was assembled a few months
        earlier.  I found too many rides in the paper based programme to have
        changed.

         

        I have never met Jenni Gormley, who seems to have pioneered
        www.PushOn.com.au by expending countless hours of her time.  However, I
        have enormous regard for her commitment.  It is child s play for BUGs
        to log new rides whereby members may access across a plethora of
        viewing options where the ride details can readily be amended or
        deleted if necessary.  Such amendment wasn t possible previously
        whereupon cyclists can now safely rely on ride details in the above
        website. 

         

        The foundation stone of BNSW surely has to be an extensive, diverse,
        accurate rides programme.

         

        I appreciate that a few people still don t have Internet access, but
        usually they know someone who does who has a printer.

         

        The world relies on the internet to provide all sorts of timely,
        accurate info.  Traditional newspapers and magazines are struggling for
        circulation.  I don t see why cyclists shouldn t similarly avail
        themselves of its benefits.

         

        Cheers

         

        Phil Johnston

        BUG:  www.Muggaccinos.com

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: john kyriazis [mailto:ioannis_zis at yahoo.com]
        Sent: Monday, 28 August 2006 7:54 PM
        To: president at bikenorth.org.au; imacian at bigpond.net.au;
        windsorcyclist at windsorcyclists.org.au/; judd at tpg.com.au;
        enquiry at toukleycycleclub.org.au; candgfloyd at hotmail.com;
        info at stgeorgebug.org.au; gjsearle at bigpond.com;
        laja.florence at bigpond.com; begabug_7 at hotmail.com; ggodde at vtown.com.au;
        rpabarlow at netwit.net.au; gregw at nor.com.au;
        patriciagriffen at bigpond.com.au; cycleways at hunterlink.net.au;
        nebug at optusnet.com.au; alland1 at bigpond.com; ScribePJ at tpg.com.au;
        gregmonk at bigpond.net.au; bccycles at nor.com.au; haworth at tsn.cc;
        david.and.barb at iinet.net.au; agwood at hn.ozemail.com.au;
        dbathers at bigpond.net.au; CBushell at csu.edu.au; 1bicycle at lisp.com.au;
        timothy at australia.edu; president at sydneyspokes.com;
        john-j-OBrien at bigpond.com; george1h at 0tusnet.com.au;
        info at camwest.pps.com.au; jan2max at bigpond.net.au; jclewer at bigpond.net.au
        ; katandra at bigpond.com; cctcc at bigpond.com; contact at baybug.org.au;
        bgrinberg at telstra.com; KRIXggrh at bigpond.com; pwe01326 at bigpond.net.au;
        bsday at optusnet.com.au; grant at grcontrols.net; info at bikenorth.org.au;
        secretary at bww.org.au; sally at full-screen-ahead.com.au;
        ashbug at telstra.com; fractalbug at yahoo.com.au; ducula at tpg.com.au
        Subject: push on gone

         

        The push on has gone from the magazine and thus relegated those
        activists & Bugs associated with it to third rate status. Bicycle NSW 
        is distancing itself from Bugs. Its ceo seems to be more interested in
        fun rides and insurance. This year may be the last chance for BUGS to
        back control of their organisation. What  do you all think?

         

        If something is not done to reform Bicycle NSW  in 2006 then it will
        become even more distant from its members, when the boards 2 year term
        in office will begin.

         

        We need a Bicycle NSW  that will take the lead in lobbying the NSW
        state government and allow the BUGS to consentrate on local government.

         

         

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