[CAMWEST-discuss] Fw: push on gone
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:12:15 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: push on gone
Nobody is criticising the electronic version of push on , but the only
members that will use it, will be a very small minority of activists. The
overwhelming majority of bicycle nsw members are not activists. When push on
was part of the magazine, at least these members would glance at it. Now with
the removal of push on from the magazine, these members will probably not
look at it. At the very least a summarised version of the electronic push on
, should appear in the magazine.
Bicycle nsw tried getting rid of the push on several months ago, but failed
with the backlash from bugs at that time. Its now time to reform an
organisation, that is out of touch with the wishes of its members and bugs.
Some of the bugs have not agreed with my proposals, but have their own
proposals for reforming bicycle nsw. I strongly suggest that these proposals
be prepared, written and presented ASAP to Bicycle nsw. Don t wait til
October to prepare and check the rules in the new Bicycle nsw constitution
(passed in 2005 AGM). You will need to have proposals ready and formally handed
in to bicycle nsw by this September to be eligible for this years November AGM.
If I can be of any assistance let me know.
"president at bikenorth" <graemee at idx.com.au> wrote:
Bike North agrees that increasing the involvement of members and the
commitment to increasing the support of BUGS is an excellent idea.
We disagree with the 'election by lot' approach, and feel that there are a
number of other strategies that could be applied to achieve greater
involvement and support.
President Bike North Inc.
Subject: Re: Reform Bicycle NSW
Thanks for your reply bob.
Last year's AGM we discussed the possibility of having one male and one
female 'elected by lot', in addition to the current board members. this
was a conservative proposal. Yes personally i would like to see the
whole board elected by lot, but i think the above proposal is the way
i think your suggesting there be an age limit to 'elected by lot'
board members. At the 2005 AGM we said people interested would need to
enroll themselves. there could be a box they tick on the Bicycle NSW
entry form that asked, "do you want to be on the board this coming
year" and you would need to tick the box to enroll yourself to be
elected by lot. Or you could have an age limit and elect people from
the entire member list, i think 50 years of age as an entry level (by
the way that rules me out).
Personally i think people who have the qualifications should get the
positions on any board or parliament for that matter, but that
strangely is not current practice. But if you are going to be an
ordinary member of the board then you need not have specific
qualifications and the idea behind the 'election by lot' proposal was
to educate members to and encopurage them to be more active in the
organisation. Last year only 30 people turned out for the AGM out of a
possible 10,000 members!
Robert Moore <fractalbug at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
--- John Kyriazis and Ian Macindoe wrote:
> we would be
> interested to know the thoughts of others to the
> following proposal.
> To encourage greater participation of members of
> Bicycle NSW in the Annual General Meeting we suggest
> the following:
> To increase Bicycle NSW s commitment to and
> involvement with its members, we suggest that
> positions on its Board be 'elected by lot' ,
> specifically to liaise with and promote BUGs
> throughout NSW. (please note: 'elected by lot' means
> random selection from membership list.)
Do you mean ALL positions by lot? Any age limit or
> Some weeks prior to the AGM there be a special
> boxed section of Push On outlining the main purposes
> and issues to be taken up at the AGM.
> The AGM to occur during the last half day of a
> two-day BUGs workshop dealing with
> (a) BUG purposes and activities, (b) BUG
> governance, and (c) BNSW governance.
This is a good idea if enough people can get to it.
> The BUG workshop be organised and hosted by one
> of the larger/more successful BUGs at no substantial
> cost to Bicycle NSW as an organisation.
Who does pay then, the hosting BUG? Not many could
afford that. Better to make it an annual item in the
BNSW budget surely? Or are we talking home-stays?
> So, for
> example, if Bathurst BADBUG or Bicycle Wagga Wagga
> or Northern Rivers Cycling Club or NAMBUG or BUG LE
> BUG (Leeton) or Cootamundra BUG hosts the workshop,
> then they would provide the appropriate facilities
> for the AGM also.
Maybe the local Council or business could help
subsidise the meeting.
> The effect of such changes to the present
> operation of Bicycle NSW would be to shift emphasis
> towards the role of BUGs vis- -vis the central
> support organisation (Bicycle NSW). It would also,
> we hope, tend to provide a balance to the
> traditional Sydney-centric operation of Bicycle NSW.
> We think it would certainly lead to productive ideas
> for BUGs to share and could even make the AGM fun!
I am thinking what BNSW needs as always is a stronger
Advocacy Committee and maybe the BUGs need to think
about getting on that before they get on the board
itself. ( Apologies for those who are involved, I
admit I am a litle out of it myself these days.) More
use of electronic meetings might overcome the distance
and other splits between country and city.
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