[CAMWEST-discuss] Fw: Re: PushOn and Bicycle NSW

Nick Urbanik nicku at nicku.org
Mon Sep 4 06:04:36 UTC 2006

Dear CAMWESTies,

more on Push On.

----- Forwarded message from Greg Godde <ggodde at vtown.com.au> -----

From: "Greg Godde" <ggodde at vtown.com.au>
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:47:32 +1000
To: <ioannis_zis at yahoo.com>,
	"Robert Hamilton" <rjbhamilton at hotmail.com>
Cc: "Jenni Gormley (Push On)" <pushon at shirelife.com>,
	"Martin Scott" <bonascot at netwit.net.au>, <ducula at tpg.com.au>,
	<fractalbug at yahoo.com.au>, <ashbug at telstra.com>,
	<secretary at bww.org.au>, <info at bikenorth.org.au>,
	<grant at grcontrols.net>, <bsday at optusnet.com.au>,
	<pwe01326 at bigpond.net.au>, <krixggrh at bigpond.com>,
	<bgrinberg at telstra.com>, <contact at baybug.org.au>,
	<cctcc at bigpond.com>, <katandra at bigpond.com>,
	<jclewer at bigpond.net.au>, <jan2max at bigpond.net.au>,
	<info at camwest.pps.com.au>, <george1h at 0tusnet.com.au>,
	<john-j-obrien at bigpond.com>, <president at sydneyspokes.com>,
	<timothy at australia.edu.au>, <1bicycle at lisp.com.au>,
	<cbushell at csu.edu.au>, <dbathers at bigpond.net.au>,
	<agwood at hn.ozemail.com.au>, <david.and.barb at iinet.net.au>,
	<haworth at tsn.cc>, <bccycles at nor.com.au>, <gregmonk at bigpond.net.au>,
	<scribepj at tpg.com.au>, <alland1 at bigpond.com>,
	<nebug at optusnet.com.au>, <cycleways at hunterlink.net.au>,
	<patriciagriffen at bigpond.com.au>, <gregw at nor.com.au>,
	<rpabarlow at netwit.net.au>, <begabug_7 at hotmail.com>,
	<laja.florence at bigpond.com>, <gjsearle at bigpond.com>,
	<info at stgeorgebug.org.au>, <candgfloyd at hotmail.com>,
	<enquiry at toukleycycleclub.org.au>, <judd at tpg.com.au>,
	<windsorcyclist at windsorcyclists.org.au>, <imacian at bigpond.net.au>,
	<president at bikenorth.org.au>,
	"Kerrie Walsh" <house_of_tudor at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: PushOn and Bicycle NSW
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807

It has been real interesting to read all the emails from all the
concerned BUG's across NSW in regards to changes to the BNSW
magazine. I must say I support their concerns as PushOn in the BNSW
mag has given many visitors (cyclists) to the west a contact name &
number when they visit the different towns.

Over the years we have received many phone calls from people who
happen to be staying in Parkes, Forbes, Condobolin & Peak Hill
enquiring about places to ride and BUG meetings, all from picking up
the BNSW mag and looking through PushON. With this gone where will
they go to get this ease of information and don't say the public
library to find a computer, it's one of the last places cyclists want
to go when they are touring.

As a long time member of BNSW and a subscriber to the magazine, we
know that the organisation depends on it's members to support it's on
going day to day operation, if we talk with our feet and walk away
from BNSW, maybe we look for someone else to look after PushOn, for
the day to day cyclist to advertise the BUG's calender and a few
stories. It's one of the best networking tools we have available to
the BUG's for those touring cyclists to keep contact with us as they
travel around the state.
Greg (President) & Shayne Godde
Parkes Pedallers - BUG
33 Best Street
Parkes NSW 2870
Ph. 6863 5500
----- Original Message -----

    From: Robert Hamilton
    To: ioannis_zis at yahoo.com
    Cc: president at bikenorth.org.au ; imacian at bigpond.net.au ;
    windsorcyclist at windsorcyclists.org.au ; judd at tpg.com.au ;
    enquiry at toukleycycleclub.org.au ; candgfloyd at hotmail.com ;
    info at stgeorgebug.org.au ; gjsearle at bigpond.com ; laja.florence at bigpond.com
    ; begabug_7 at hotmail.com ; ggodde at vtown.com.au ; rpabarlow at netwit.net.au ;
    gregw at nor.com.au ; patriciagriffen at bigpond.com.au ;
    cycleways at hunterlink.net.au ; nebug at optusnet.com.au ; alland1 at bigpond.com ;
    scribepj at tpg.com.au ; gregmonk at bigpond.net.au ; bccycles at nor.com.au ;
    haworth at tsn.cc ; david.and.barb at iinet.net.au ; agwood at hn.ozemail.com.au ;
    dbathers at bigpond.net.au ; cbushell at csu.edu.au ; 1bicycle at lisp.com.au ;
    timothy at australia.edu.au ; president at sydneyspokes.com ;
    john-j-obrien at bigpond.com ; george1h at 0tusnet.com.au ;
    info at camwest.pps.com.au ; jan2max at bigpond.net.au ; jclewer at bigpond.net.au ;
    katandra at bigpond.com ; cctcc at bigpond.com ; contact at baybug.org.au ;
    bgrinberg at telstra.com ; krixggrh at bigpond.com ; pwe01326 at bigpond.net.au ;
    bsday at optusnet.com.au ; grant at grcontrols.net ; info at bikenorth.org.au ;
    secretary at bww.org.au ; ashbug at telstra.com ; fractalbug at yahoo.com.au ;
    ducula at tpg.com.au
    Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 6:12 PM
    Subject: PushOn and Bicycle NSW

    Dear John


    I have seen your recent email to many of the BUGs.  While you did not send
    it to me another BUG member did so.  I am referring to the email in which
    you comment on the changes to PushOn and your view that Bicycle NSW is
    “distancing itself from BUGs”.  I have included the text below.


    I have copied this email to all those to whom you sent your original
    message to ensure that they also have access to my views on what BNSW has
    been focusing on.



    Let me respond to your latest comments.


    “PushOn has gone from the magazine.”  


    Yes, it has.  We informed all members some months ago that we planned to
    make PushOn an email magazine, on a trial basis.  This we have done.  On a
    trial basis.  Your email implies that PushOn has been abandoned.  However,
    it is now available through 2 delivery methods, and not one as per the
    magazine option only.  We have informed members that they can get a hard
    copy of PushOn in two ways: download the PDF and print it; or ask BNSW to
    send out a printed copy.  It remains to be seen whether this will prove to
    be a good move but it represents a change from our past practise as we look
    to improve our distribution means and thus, we hope, communication.


    “… thus relegated those activists & Bugs associated with it to third rate


    We feel that having a better website, putting the rides calendar on the
    web, distributing PushOn by email are all steps that add to the information
    available to Bugs and “activists”.  The intention of the Board and the
    management of BNSW is to work with BUGs and to give them more information. 


    “Its CEO seems to be more interested in fun rides and insurance.”


    The Board and the administration of BNSW have been under great pressure for
    the past few years to ensure the financial survival of the organisation. 
    Lowered insurance premiums (which saved us a great deal) and adequate
    patronage of rides are both crucial to the very survival of BNSW.  As
    President, I have seen it as the most important issue that we have faced. 
    I am  very pleased (as reported in the current edition of PushOn) that we
    finished the 2005-06 year with an adequate surplus.  For the first time for
    several years, we are in a position to do things with a little more


    Earlier this year, the Board decided that it wanted a full time advocacy
    manager.  This was written into the strategy document drafted several
    months ago.  Subsequently, the Advocacy and Election sub-Committees have
    put forward a proposal to devote a new full time resource to advocacy, with
    an initial focus on the forthcoming state election.  We worked with
    individuals from two BUGs active in this area to help formulate our
    strategy and plan. This represents the partnership approach we take with
    the BUGs.  When we have recruited for this role, this should position us to
    be much more active in this important area.


    ”If something is not done to reform Bicycle NSW in 2006 then it will become
    even more distant from its members…”


    I agree that BNSW must be as close to its membership as possible.  I know
    that there are things that we have not got right and I am sure that will be
    true in the future, too.  But we absolutely recognise and believe that we
    are a membership-based organisation and that we must do all that we can to
    work for our members.  That said, it is then open to debate as to what
    should be done.  Every one has a different idea on what our priorities
    ought to be.  The Board considers many ideas but we cannot do everything so
    we do what we think is best and what we can find the resources to do. 
    Anyone is free to stand for the Board and to work towards whatever they
    think is right. 


    “… when the boards 2 year term in office will begin.”


    A two year term, with half the Board re-elected each year was proposed and
    accepted at the 2005 AGM.  The new two year terms do not come into force
    until the 2006 AGM, on 4 November.  None of those elected last year have a
    two year term. 


    “… lead in lobbying the NSW state government and allow the BUGS to
    concentrate on local government.”


    I agree. Since confirming our first surplus in many years as at 30 June
    2006, we have immediately moved to focus on where we can make the most


    As a final comment let me say that I would be delighted if we actually have
    more nominees for the Board than there are positions available.  If you
    want to influence the real work of BNSW then nominate for the Board and get
    yourself elected.  There are also other ways you can work with us in
    partnership as have other members of BUGs.  An example would be to help us
    to find a new, really good advocacy manager.


    Yours sincerely,



    Robert Hamilton





    Text of your email:


    The push on has gone from the magazine and thus relegated those activists &
    Bugs associated with it to third rate status. Bicycle NSW  is distancing
    itself from Bugs. Its ceo seems to be more interested in fun rides and
    insurance. This year may be the last chance for BUGS to back control of
    their organisation. What  do you all think?


    If something is not done to reform Bicycle NSW  in 2006 then it will become
    even more distant from its members, when the boards 2 year term in office
    will begin.


    We need a Bicycle NSW  that will take the lead in lobbying the NSW state
    government and allow the BUGS to consentrate on local government


----- End forwarded message -----

Nick Urbanik   RHCE         http://nicku.org        nicku at nicku.org
GPG: 7FFA CDC7+5A77 0558 DC7A 790A 16DF EC5B BB9D 2C24 ID: BB9D2C24
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 189 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://nicku.org/pipermail/camwest-discuss/attachments/20060904/2745f94c/attachment-0001.sig>

More information about the CAMWEST-discuss mailing list