[CAMWEST-discuss] [CAMWEST-announce] Fwd: Support for new Bike Rider ID laws

Danny Hannan danny_hannan at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 21 02:56:58 UTC 2016


Anthony,To my knowledge neither Bicycle NSW nor CAMWEST supports rider identification laws and the other completely anachronistic law of a bell (warning device) on the bike.  However Bicycle NSW and CAMWEST do advise that all riders should obey the laws.
My personal opinion is that as an adult using the road, if driving, I have to carry my drivers licence, it is not a big deal to carry identification while riding, for this I have an expired drivers licence in my puncture kit if needed.
However I do not have a bell on my bike and if fined I will fight it in court.  The human voice is far louder and human hearing is tuned to the frequencies of the human voice so a yell is far more audible than almost all other alternative "warning devises" and does not require any movement of hands to operate so is much more responsive.  My argument for court is that I do have a much more effective and rapid response warning devise than any bell attached to my bike, my voice; so not guilty.
I suggest that you write to your local state member with most of the body of your e-mail complaining about the issues you have and the inadequacy of facilities and laws.
Dandanny_hannan at yahoo.com

      From: "jonhol2 at netscape.net" <jonhol2 at netscape.net>
 To: camwest-announce at nicku.org; camwest-discuss at nicku.org 
 Sent: Friday, 21 October 2016, 10:56
 Subject: [CAMWEST-announce] Fwd: Support for new Bike Rider ID laws
   
Hi CAMWESTies,                            can somebody on the current executive clarify this issue for Antony? I am unaware of any decision by CAMWEST regarding support for these laws during my time as Chair.

John Holstein"If we don't change direction we will end up where we are headed" (Professor Irwin Corey, Comedian 1909 - )

-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Lewis <Antony.Lewis at genmills.com>
To: contact <contact at camwest.pps.com.au>
Cc: info <info at bicyclensw.org.au>
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2016 7:23 am
Subject: Support for new Bike Rider ID laws

#yiv0915343156 #yiv0915343156AOLMsgPart_1.yiv09153431562_e61780e9-b25b-4c70-b119-35986d3af555 td{color:black;} _filtered #yiv0915343156 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0915343156 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody p.yiv0915343156MsoNormal, #yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody li.yiv0915343156MsoNormal, #yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody div.yiv0915343156MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody a:link, #yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody span.yiv0915343156MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody a:visited, #yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody span.yiv0915343156MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody span.yiv0915343156EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody .yiv0915343156MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv0915343156 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv0915343156 .yiv0915343156aolReplacedBody div.yiv0915343156WordSection1 {}I have just been informed that CAMWEST through Bicycle NSW support the new ID laws for adult bike riders.I am disappointed by this and please understand I do not support these laws putting the emphasis on the bike rider. If the law changes had also allowed bike riders to ride on footpaths, then I would likely be for the changes. As a daily bike rider, commuting to & from work,  I cannot abide by the current Government laws – particularly not riding on footpaths.I commute between Mount Druitt and Glendenning where there is a section of official bike path but then it stops at both ends of my trip. It is then up to me to work out what route to take.Many sections of the road are unsafe to cycle on; drivers do not give safe space to bike riders, at roundabouts drivers try to “squeeze” you out, you are verbally abused or blasted by a horn.I can understand these people have spent 1-2 hours in a traffic jam getting home from work, I just do not think they should be turning that frustration into abuse of the bike rider. As an engaged organisation with the NSW Government on this decision and knowing it will not come into effect until early next year, I would hope that you can provide some feedback.If asked, understand my disagreement with the changes and belief it will deter people from riding their bike more regularly.Bikes save the Government money and are good for the environment, unfortunately for some they do not increase GDP. Regards,Antony LewisGeneral Mills Australia Pty Ltd | 16 Kellogg Road | Rooty Hill | NSW Australia 2766 T +612 9830 9056 | Eantony.lewis at genmills.com Please consider the environment before printing this email 
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