[CAMWEST-discuss] missing links in Blacktown Cycle area

Mark Robson Mark.Robson at australwright.com.au
Thu Nov 3 02:56:09 UTC 2011


Hi Robert,

All at the workshop are painfully aware of this big missing link.

As part of the Boral industrial redevelopment a Bus T-Way and shared path is proposed
from Wetherill Park towards the M4. Rumour has it that the RTA will then bridge the gap
to Prospect Hwy as they are committed to providing shared path from this new industrial development to Blacktown CBD;
and therefore from Wetherill Park T-Way path to Blacktown CBD WITHOUT going through water board lands.

Unfortunately this means 2 more BIG sets of traffic lights where the Prospect Hwy joins the M4. I don't know how they
Propose to get cyclists safely across the existing Gt Western Hwy ramps.

I expect this will all take some years to complete and will be only finalised when the Prospect Hwy bridge is duplicated across the Gt Western Hwy.

In the meantime you can use this route to get from Prospect Hwy to the canal path and on to the Reserviour.
( At least when the gate is open at that construction site )

http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/56343738

Starts at Blacktown but you should be able to see where it goes under Prospect Hwy and follow from there. This is quite usable right now.


Regards

Mark

From: camwest-discuss-bounces at nicku.org [mailto:camwest-discuss-bounces at nicku.org] On Behalf Of Robert Harcourt
Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 1:04 PM
To: camwest-discuss at nicku.org
Subject: [CAMWEST-discuss] missing links in Blacktown Cycle area

Hullo,
I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge on what, if anything, is being done to join the Prospect Hwy cycle path with prospect Reservoir.  Could this be brought up with the council?  Thanks.
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From: "Dale, Rudy & Jason Doyle" <cacti at iinet.net.au>
Date: 2 November 2011 7:02:02 PM AEDT
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Hi Michael,

I meant to reply to this earlier and now I realise it's too late...

I'm interested to see if there's been any progress on the missing link between Fox Hills and Pemulway, joining the cycleway along greystanes creek and Pemulway (which then joins the canal cycleway/prospect reservoir).

Sorry again for the late reply.

Cheers, Jason.



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Hi all,

As the Secretary of CAMWEST BUG, I have recently received an invitation
from the Senior Traffic Management Officer, of Blacktown City Council,
to their *Blacktown Bicycle Map Review Workshop*, on Wednesday, 2nd
November 2011 at 10:00 am. The Blacktown Cycleway stakeholder Forum is
to be held in the Nirimba Room, Level 5 of Council's Administrative
Centre, 62 Flushcombe Road, Blacktown.
The Workshop is planned to run for approximately 90 minutes.

Attached is the letter as received from Stephen Briant, an the pdf of
Blacktown Council's current Cycleways Map is available for download from
http://www.blacktown.nsw.gov.au/our-city/access-around-the-city/bike-plan.cfm

For further information Stephen Briant can be contacted on 02 9839-6343
or Stephen.briant at blacktown.nsw.gov.au
RSVP for attendance is by Tuesday 1 November 2011 by the above phone
number or email to Stephen Briant.
If you wish to attend you can contact Stephen Briant directly to RSVP,
and for more information.

If you have any comments or information for contribution to this
workshop relating to cycleways in the Blacktown Council area, for example,

  * Missing Links
  * Issues with connections between Blacktown Council area and
    adjacent councils
  * Problems, Hazards and difficulties caused by the current
    infrastructure implementation
  * Needs of cyclists for the cycling infrastructure in and around the
    Blacktown City Council area.

Please forward them on to vie the CAMWEST Discuss email list for
collation to bring to the workshop.

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Regards

Michael Goard
mpgoard at ihug.com.au<mpgoard at ihug.com.au>
Phone: +61 415 191 405

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From: Mark Robson <Mark.Robson at australwright.com.au>
Date: 3 November 2011 9:48:47 AM AEDT
To: "Dale, Rudy & Jason Doyle" <cacti at iinet.net.au>, "camwest-discuss at nicku.org" <camwest-discuss at nicku.org>
Subject: [CAMWEST-discuss] The Fox Hills 'gap'


Hi Jason,

The Roads Minister had finally promised to get us an answer on this gap last year, but the change of state government has seen this promise become nothing; and the new govt seem uninterested; and we have to start again with a new minister. Also this gap is right at the edge of 2 council areas so neither are willing to spend money there.

The good news for us however is that the 'back door' of Pemulwuy is now open to traffic, so from Girraween creek
cyclists can turn RIGHT across the creek at Oklahoma Ave and travel via Metella Avenue ( wide shoulder), Blacktown Rd (good footpath)
and Clunies Ross St( quiet street and some shared path) and the new Wombat Street ( proposed shared path ) and get into Pemulwuy that way. I rode this section with a group of beginners ( my kids ) last weekend and it's perfectly good for any level of cyclist. The Gt Western Hwy can be crossed as a vehicle or as a pedestrian without problems. Blacktown Rd here is fairly quiet.

So even though the dreamed of underpass is still no closer to happening, there is a good through route now that doesn't involve that awful road crossing at Toongabbie Rd/Gt Western Hwy nor that awful and busy on-road kilometre past Fox Hills golf course.

Holroyd Council have also informed us that when the Pemulwuy estate passes 90% completion that is the point when they put pressure on the developer to complete ALL of the public infrastructure such as the shared paths. The M4 underpass would be included in that.

Now that McCoy Park is completed by Parra Council this missing link at Fox Hills is the only gap in a path that would be continuous from the canal to Old Windsor Rd. Both Camwest and the RTA can see regional significance of this gap being completed. Also, Holroyd Council have repeatedly stated their support for this underpass to be built.

Mark


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Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 7:02 PM
To: camwest-discuss at nicku.org
Subject: Re: [CAMWEST-discuss] blacktown bicycle map review

Hi Michael,

I meant to reply to this earlier and now I realise it's too late...

I'm interested to see if there's been any progress on the missing link between Fox Hills and Pemulway, joining the cycleway along greystanes creek and Pemulway (which then joins the canal cycleway/prospect reservoir).

Sorry again for the late reply.

Cheers, Jason.



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    (Michael Goard)


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  November 2011
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Hi all,

As the Secretary of CAMWEST BUG, I have recently received an invitation
from the Senior Traffic Management Officer, of Blacktown City Council,
to their *Blacktown Bicycle Map Review Workshop*, on Wednesday, 2nd
November 2011 at 10:00 am. The Blacktown Cycleway stakeholder Forum is
to be held in the Nirimba Room, Level 5 of Council's Administrative
Centre, 62 Flushcombe Road, Blacktown.
The Workshop is planned to run for approximately 90 minutes.

Attached is the letter as received from Stephen Briant, an the pdf of
Blacktown Council's current Cycleways Map is available for download from
http://www.blacktown.nsw.gov.au/our-city/access-around-the-city/bike-plan.cfm

For further information Stephen Briant can be contacted on 02 9839-6343
or Stephen.briant at blacktown.nsw.gov.au
RSVP for attendance is by Tuesday 1 November 2011 by the above phone
number or email to Stephen Briant.
If you wish to attend you can contact Stephen Briant directly to RSVP,
and for more information.

If you have any comments or information for contribution to this
workshop relating to cycleways in the Blacktown Council area, for example,

  * Missing Links
  * Issues with connections between Blacktown Council area and
    adjacent councils
  * Problems, Hazards and difficulties caused by the current
    infrastructure implementation
  * Needs of cyclists for the cycling infrastructure in and around the
    Blacktown City Council area.

Please forward them on to vie the CAMWEST Discuss email list for
collation to bring to the workshop.

--
Regards

Michael Goard
mpgoard at ihug.com.au<mpgoard at ihug.com.au>
Phone: +61 415 191 405

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From: Paul Bowyer <pbowyer at au1.ibm.com>
Date: 3 November 2011 10:26:10 AM AEDT
To: camwest-discuss at nicku.org
Subject: [CAMWEST-discuss] Parra Pedal - a one hit wonder?




Yes this new government do seem uninterested in cycling.
  One of their first announcements is that they'll move the new cycleways
  in Sydney city (though that seems to have since quietened down)
  then they say they can't fund the the cycleway alongside the light rail
  extension to Dulwich Hill (the Greenway)
  And now they say they don't have any money to support the Parra Pedal in
  2012. There's an article (unfortunately very watered down) about it in
  this week's Parramatta Advertiser.

The local (Parramatta) state MP, Geoff Lee, happened to be at Westmead
station yesterday as I was heading to work and I asked him about the
dropping of funding for the Parra Pedal. He was unaware and asked me to
send him an email which I duly did.

I encourage you to tell him what you think about the government's
withdrawal of support for the Parra Pedal and ask him to get it back!
His email address is parramatta at parliament.nsw.gov.au

Thanks and regards
Paul

Paul Bowyer
Project Manager
Mobile: 0438 856 880
Email: pbowyer at au1.ibm.com






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                                      'gap'










Hi Jason,

The Roads Minister had finally promised to get us an answer on this gap
last year, but the change of state government has seen this promise become
nothing; and the new govt seem uninterested; and we have to start again
with a new minister. Also this gap is right at the edge of 2 council areas
so neither are willing to spend money there.

The good news for us however is that the 'back door' of Pemulwuy is now
open to traffic, so from Girraween creek
cyclists can turn RIGHT across the creek at Oklahoma Ave and travel via
Metella Avenue ( wide shoulder), Blacktown Rd (good footpath)
and Clunies Ross St( quiet street and some shared path) and the new Wombat
Street ( proposed shared path ) and get into Pemulwuy that way. I rode this
section with a group of beginners ( my kids ) last weekend and it's
perfectly good for any level of cyclist. The Gt Western Hwy can be crossed
as a vehicle or as a pedestrian without problems. Blacktown Rd here is
fairly quiet.

So even though the dreamed of underpass is still no closer to happening,
there is a good through route now that doesn't involve that awful road
crossing at Toongabbie Rd/Gt Western Hwy nor that awful and busy on-road
kilometre past Fox Hills golf course.

Holroyd Council have also informed us that when the Pemulwuy estate passes
90% completion that is the point when they put pressure on the developer to
complete ALL of the public infrastructure such as the shared paths. The M4
underpass would be included in that.

Now that McCoy Park is completed by Parra Council this missing link at Fox
Hills is the only gap in a path that would be continuous from the canal to
Old Windsor Rd. Both Camwest and the RTA can see regional significance of
this gap being completed. Also, Holroyd Council have repeatedly stated
their support for this underpass to be built.

Mark


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From: camwest-discuss-bounces at nicku.org [
mailto:camwest-discuss-bounces at nicku.org] On Behalf Of Dale, Rudy & Jason
Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 7:02 PM
To: camwest-discuss at nicku.org
Subject: Re: [CAMWEST-discuss] blacktown bicycle map review

Hi Michael,

I meant to reply to this earlier and now I realise it's too late...

I'm interested to see if there's been any progress on the missing link
between Fox Hills and Pemulway, joining the cycleway along greystanes creek
and Pemulway (which then joins the canal cycleway/prospect reservoir).

Sorry again for the late reply.

Cheers, Jason.



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    (Michael Goard)


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  November 2011
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Hi all,

As the Secretary of CAMWEST BUG, I have recently received an invitation
from the Senior Traffic Management Officer, of Blacktown City Council,
to their *Blacktown Bicycle Map Review Workshop*, on Wednesday, 2nd
November 2011 at 10:00 am. The Blacktown Cycleway stakeholder Forum is
to be held in the Nirimba Room, Level 5 of Council's Administrative
Centre, 62 Flushcombe Road, Blacktown.
The Workshop is planned to run for approximately 90 minutes.

Attached is the letter as received from Stephen Briant, an the pdf of
Blacktown Council's current Cycleways Map is available for download from

http://www.blacktown.nsw.gov.au/our-city/access-around-the-city/bike-plan.cfm



For further information Stephen Briant can be contacted on 02 9839-6343
or Stephen.briant at blacktown.nsw.gov.au
RSVP for attendance is by Tuesday 1 November 2011 by the above phone
number or email to Stephen Briant.
If you wish to attend you can contact Stephen Briant directly to RSVP,
and for more information.

If you have any comments or information for contribution to this
workshop relating to cycleways in the Blacktown Council area, for
example,


  * Missing Links
  * Issues with connections between Blacktown Council area and
    adjacent councils
  * Problems, Hazards and difficulties caused by the current
    infrastructure implementation
  * Needs of cyclists for the cycling infrastructure in and around the
    Blacktown City Council area.

Please forward them on to vie the CAMWEST Discuss email list for
collation to bring to the workshop.

--
Regards

Michael Goard
mpgoard at ihug.com.au<mpgoard at ihug.com.au>
Phone: +61 415 191 405

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